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Автор: Mara Morales 19.12.2018

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So basically, until need a software upgrade, either for compatibility or feature reasons, there are no issues. Retrieved 20 July 2014. After sending it, I jumped to your site and learned that my buddy had let me down by not forwarding your email announcing the new subscription service with a six month free trial.


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Arq handles the client interactions but uses third party storage providers to store the data. The only limit that I found is there is no Android version. If anyone has any additional questions or concerns, I would encourage you to contact us directly at support+social agilebits.


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Non-subscription license - What made me switch is their move to a subscription model.


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Full disclosure, I work for AgileBits, the folks that make 1Password. I hear and appreciate your collective concerns that we are getting rid of the standalone license option. However, I'd like to assure you that not only are there no plans to get rid of it, we are continuing to develop the standalone version. We know that we have a critical mass of customers who appreciate the ability to store their password data outside of the cloud. And given that we are entirely customer funded, those are customers that we cannot and are not ignoring. Our subscriptions options remain new and we are still figuring a lot of things out. One of the ongoing issues has been customer confusion between licenses and account. That is why we have made it a bit harder to locate information about licenses on our site. Nothing insidious, just an attempt to make it easier for the majority of our customers to locate what they are looking for without confusing them. If anyone has any additional questions or concerns, I would encourage you to contact us directly at support+social agilebits. However, if a vast majority of our users switch to 1Password Family or 1Password Teams and as of today, an Individual plan! So, it's probably one of those speak with your wallet kind of scenarios. I mean, if it's a contest between the standalone version and subscriptions, it sure looks like the game isn't fair. Hey, I'm a happy 1pass customer, but give me fucking break. Maybe 1 visitor in 100, visiting your website, would even realize that there's a fixed-price option still available. It's buried way at the bottom of the pricing page, hidden inside the FAQ. The link itself just leads to a purchase page, with absolutely no attempt to explain or lay out the differences between the subscription and fixed price option. Be more honest, please. If you said something like that to me in person we'd have a serious problem because at the end if the day, integrity is all anybody really has. Anyway, completely happy subscription user here and it's actually the reason I went back to 1Password. I used to do the standalone Dropbox thing too and the subscription is just night and day better, and given the value I extract from this product I'm not going to freak out over half a coffee a month nor accuse AgileBits, a company I've tremendously respected for many years with their attention to support and customer experience, with suddenly being the axis of evil as you've done here. I'll drive this point home: I actually got the standalone licenses cheaper through work way back when and still happily entered into paying for a subscription from my own funds. I think the people extremely upset about this, including you, are the ones being disingenuous and forgetting how reasonable AgileBits is in everything else they do. I'm not even a fan, it's just been apparent to me for a long time. How much value do you extract from the stuff you store in 1Password? Is it really that unreasonable for a company to move toward more recurring revenue? I have no problem with your intention to move users towards annual subscriptions, nor offering cloud storage as an optional feature. This would certainly be more convenient for newbies. I guess between the family version, plus iOS, plus upgrades, I've been paying the same amount every couple of years. But the moment you start forcing users to use your cloud storage instead of locally managed options, like ssh, local sync, etc , you lost me forever. Please make sure you keep these options very separate. I like the separation between services right now. The same is true for Arq, a popular Mac backup software. Arq handles the client interactions but uses third party storage providers to store the data. I trust Amazon to store my backups. Granted, backups are not the same as passwords, but they are both important to maintain in terms of data integrity and security. And I wouldn't trust Arq to run their own cloud storage platform and I don't trust 1Password to operate their own cloud password storage solution, either. I have two standalone accounts wife and I and I use the Team subscription for my, well, team. The thing is, I've chosen 1Password for my personal secrets because I don't share them with anyone, ever. I don't need them stored centrally as long as there is the Dropbox option, and I feel like it is precisely this architecture that has kept 1Password mostly out of the headlines unlike some of their competitors. Hey Eva, can you pass some notes onto the team for me? I end up searching for the same logins, until I remember they can be favorited. Takes a bit to resolve that it's already been purchased. Recommended 1Password to a few friends, and had to later apologize when I realized they weren't in the Mac ecosystem. Has a bad habit of locking up chrome when I first open the plugin. I want you to be successful, but I likely won't be recommending 1Password anymore, or dropping if the standalone license gets feature locked. As a long time user across platforms who has continued to pay for upgrades and has now licensed a Team and Family. I appreciate the direction you are heading, and I was more than willing to pay a recurring fee given how much the pace of development has picked up. Since 1Password hasn't had much support for teams and password sharing e. Due to their robust support for teams, Dashlane and Lastpass have been the most deployed. While these solutions are simple enough that my clients can make them work, they don't enjoy using them. Quite often, I've learned that they've hit enough obstacles that they don't even trust the tool and keep reusing the same weak passwords all over the web so that they can remember what they need. I'm rushing to move these same clients over to 1Password before the Teams promo ends. The attention to detail and subtle improvements to UX have been really well received. And today, I will be meeting with a non-profit board to convince them to get on board. I will take the opportunity to push a few requests that I know you've heard before... It'd be nice to give my family and employees access to certain accounts as well. Guest vaults with auditing are a step in the right direction, but I'd love to see time delayed access. I have an opportunity to reject access within a certain time frame configurable. My concern here is that I don't want to rely on the security practices of the people I'm sharing with to protect these particular passwords. Vaults are too much for one-off sharing, and the guest limits are pretty restrictive here. I believe Team accounts are capped at 20 guests and Families at 2. Why not cap the number of items in a guest vault 10-15 seems fair instead? I'm assuming the restriction is there to prevent people from abusing the feature totally understandable. But there are some valuable guest use cases for power users and even everyday family users. I want to set up a vault for my housemates and another for the folks who sublet the extra offices in my lease. I also know that I'll never be able to sell my smaller healthcare providers on it, even though the extra functionality would be valuable for compliance. I am constantly onboarding clients onto password management solutions, and handling many of their day-to-day challenges. I'm not just thinking about financial incentives here. It'd be nice to have some partner oriented features in the application, like the ability to move a guest vault out to an independent team or audit-only access. I wasn't aware of this change, so I read the entire linked support thread. Although the company responders did some nice verbal gymnastics, I think it is pretty obvious that this is just mainly just a money grab on behalf of AgileBits. I have to say I agree; it is not listed as an option alongside the two subscription options. In fact, you have to scroll all the way down, to the end of the FAQ, to even find a mention of it. I personally have no problem using commercial software, but my password manager is one place where I suspect that I should be moving to open source in case I don't want to renew my license over some future pricing disagreement, and I lose access to some of my critically important property passwords. It's tempting to think that we'll be able to keep our currently purchased standalone licenses in perpetuity, but I've already been dragged through at least one major version upgrade of 1Password to keep pace with new OS developments for OS X and iOS. Unfortunately, the landscape for open source alternatives doesn't seem particularly good. The Android app is actually better than 1Password, and KeeWeb is better for me because it works on Linux as well and it gives me a full history of all edits not just the password field. Plus being just one file, it is also easier to go back in time using Dropbox's version history. What you'll miss is the fancy browser extension, but for me that's fine, because a browser extension represents a huge security risk, and selecting a field in KeeWeb is painless as it has keyboard shortcuts. On Android it is a security risk, because apps can get notified and wake up when it happens, but Keepass2Android that I mentioned provides a keyboard for input which works better than 1Password. And on desktops, I just don't think it's a real threat. It's not much, but it works if you're worried. As a multi device user, it's definitely better for me. I have 2x windows desktop, a Mac laptop, an iPhone and an android tablet. With the current non-subscriptioin pricing model, it will cost me 65 dollars for the two desktop apps, plus another 20 dollars for the android + ios apps - that's a fairly hefty upfront fee. As an aside, it's extremely difficult to find out how much the android pro feature currently costs, I ended up finding it in the comments sectino of one of their posts rather than the google play store or on their website. But the idea behind a password manager is that you effectively use it in perpetuity. I use it several times a day, and don't see that changing at any point in the near future. But the idea that you, as a consumer, are looking at this and seeing an appealing deal suggests you haven't really thought it through very well. Out of curiosity, when new versions of iOS and macOS get released over the next several years, are you willing to pay for the upgrades the developers will have to inevitably release in order to maintain compatibility with the OS? I'm seeing a more appealing deal than putting out 80 dollars up front. The amount of software that I have paid for up front, and continued to use for longer than 2 years I can count on one hand. I wouldn't be surprised if in 2 years time I had moved to another service. Given that 62 + 20 is the break even point, that's 27 months paid, plus the 6 months up front, just shy of 3 years. I've also had 1Password 6 for at least a year. Nothing new happened since I first bought it. And the Windows client still sucks so horribly that indeed that price isn't justified. But btw, for 3x desktop licenses I don't think you'll get away with 3 dollars per month ;- Eh, I don't consider it hidden as much as they just rolled out this brand new version of the product the subscription version , so of course they're going to emphasize what's new. As a 1Password user, I actually prefer this model. Many of us believe that subscription service pricing leads to more sustainable software companies, and for that reason I'm happy to see the AgileBits team take a forward looking perspective. I have been a paying customer since 2010 or so. We have done a trial of 1Password Family, but I just don't see the advantage for customers. You just get locked into someone's data silo and you cannot purchase upgrades anymore at your own leisure. I agree with those who say that it primarily benefits AgileBits. Sadly, my experience with other products that switched to a subscription model has been that at some point all kinds strategies 'incentives' are applied to get people to move to subscription licensing. So, I am carefully watching the situation as it unfolds. So it might be a good time to explore open source? I'm a former 1Password user and switched to KeePass ports. This last one is a little weak, but it works. All 3 are open source btw. What made me switch is their move to a subscription model. They pretend that the old licensing model will still be around, but if you pay attention, that's not true. The first thing they did for example is to get rid of the Mac-only license, in order to make subscriptions seem more competitive. And they also stopped developing standalone features. I'm a Linux user as well, I would have liked a Linux port. And the only sync option is Dropbox, but Google Drive or other options would have been nice. On cloud syncing, I do syncing by means of Dropbox, but my Dropbox directory isn't a big target for hackers and at the very least I know how KeePass and GPG work, what ends up in my Dropbox being just an encrypted file. I don't know how LastPass and 1Password work, even though they claim the encryption is only client side, and frankly I don't care anymore. So basically, until need a software upgrade, either for compatibility or feature reasons, there are no issues. With the current data-format of 1password being open-source, that shouldn't be that hard. As for alternatives, last time I looked ~3 months ago, when I was in the market for a password manager I chose 1password because of their superior browser plugins. The contending alternatives were: - keepass open source - lastpass - dashlane I wouldn't be surprised if features were removed in a version or two. The have negative incentive to maintain working dropbox synching code, since now it's competition for their main product. Even if they don't remove the feature, what are the odds it gets any love and continues to work well? Bitrot is a real thing. Most software needs a little bit of love to continue working as the world around it changes. It is also available on Linux, Windows, and MacOS, and while not itself available on Android there are several Android apps. Yes it might have been a valid question a few years ago. These days the ReadySignOn iOS is unquestionably the best password manager all around. Actually it's the only one that I ccould trust. Its recently released source code of KeePass plug-in shows it actually uses a million key derivation iteration count and additional direct key xors on top of ASE256. What does ReadySignOn cost? I can't find any pricing information on their website. I understand they can't completely control the way that the App Store presents things and maybe it's more clear if I load iTunes. The app is free, no pay-to-unlock features. I think the IAP packages are for additional templates which are really not necessary at all. If I need a similar record for the same site I just duplicate then modify, it's actually easier than templates. The only limit that I found is there is no Android version. We currently use 1password for our business but and while the Mac client is ok the teams website leaves a lot to be desired and no Linux client at this point is embarrassing. You get the feeling that agile bits is ok at developing Mac and Windows software but basically has no idea about developing software for the web. I am a long time 1Password customer and have recommended the software to family and friends. This new subscription model was confusing when it launched and I am now more uncomfortable with the company's explanations and backtracking. There are other options for password management out there. If Agilebits are not super transparent about everything, users will leave for the competition. I am much less comfortable with Agilebits than I was pre-subscription model. The standalone version should be promoted equally on the website, not as a small link in the FAQ. I stopped buying Adobe products when they went to subscription as well. I've been waiting for a way to access my 1Password data on the web, e. Also the quality of the software in terms of user experience ---both on the desktop and on iOS---is fantastic. Also the ability to contact a human for support is excellent. I am however nervous about the idea of storing all my passwords on someone else's server. If there ever were a security breach, imagine the consequence. If there ever were a security breach, imagine the consequence. This doesn't necessarily follow, depending on the security model of the software you're using. You can then attack the encryption on that data, sure, but that's a tall order to do wholesale. Also, 1pass is was? I haven't used it for a few years handy for command-line access and it runs on Linux. I've been watching this carefully, because the subscription model has zero benefits for me and both Chrome and Safari have started to implement basic password management solutions that already do cloud syncing. They're weak and obscure, but usable, and 1Password's benefit is that it's smarter and prettier. However, I'm not keen on cloud sync that I don't control or that I can't audit somehow. So no AgileBits for me in the new model, ever, and if they drop the Dropbox sync option, I'll move everything to KeePass. Shame, though, the UX and integration with other apps in iOS is pretty nifty. But to be honest, I suspect AgileBits' market share to shrink significantly over time as browser and OS-based password managers become better. I wonder if they would have met this resistance if they had started as SaaS from day one. I mean, I get the benefit to them of recurring revenue, but from a customer standpoint this is right up there with Adobe trying to force everyone to creative cloud albeit handled much better imho. People viewed it as something you pay once for, and not something that warrants paying in perpetuity. Customers fully realize that increasing LTV for AgileBits means a massive price hike for them over multiple years if you do the May on percentage increase. The data format of 1password is open. There open source packages out there that can read and manipulate the vault which confirms this specification is true. The format has attracted quit a bit of scrutiny, and no-one has found a weakness. If the underlying crypto'd be broken your passwords are probably useless anyway. Presumably they would be limited in what could be done on scale based upon the use of encryption for transport and of the vault itself, but does this change the threat profile vs Dropbox sync with respect to legal process? It's very much a 1Password ripoff, which I mean as a compliment: the UI will be familiar to you. It's not nearly as polished as 1Password, but there don't seem to be many native password managers that are. Their desktop clients are free, and their mobile clients are flat licenses actually free downloads with limited functionality as a demo, and in-app purchase to unlock, but whatever. Sync options are actually a bit better than 1Password I think: the usual suspects like Dropbox are there, but you can also sync over your own webdav server if you want to. I switched because I wanted something that had a decent Linux client. If 1Password is going the way of subscription pricing, it seems like I made my switch none too soon. Although AgileBits has had responsive customer service not always necessarily the same as useful or good customer service , it has made at least one prominent mistake that it had to backtrack out of after a long time. What was hypocritical of AgileBits was that it still had to maintain its store, payment processing, etc. Many customers complained, and complained quite a lot, on their forums, but AgileBits' attitude and response were very poor and seemed downright obstinate. After a long time, AgileBits realized that MAS wasn't that great not sure of the reasons and brought 1Password Mac to its store while retaining MAS as an option. The outcome is unknown at this point in time. Maybe a lot of people will find the subscription easier to use and force AgileBits to shutdown the standalone licensing model. Hopefully, AgileBits will remove the obscurity of the standalone licenses and provide it prominently, because the current scheme just doesn't fit with what AgileBits as a company always aims to be. It's too cheap of AgileBits to do something like this. Also hopefully, the subscription models will continue to be optional with standalone licenses available at reasonable prices and perhaps segmented differently with lower price points? It would also be better for AgileBits to get into making other kinds of software applications instead of trying to squeeze more and more out of password management and shared password systems. I'm an occasional 1Password user on Windows, but I switched most of my passwords to the built-in browser based password management since I mostly use only one or two browsers. For some other purposes, I use KeePass and KeeWeb though 1Password's browser extensions, where they work, are quite convenient. I personally don't see a lot of value in getting 1Password anymore, and as for a subscription, that would be inappropriately wasteful.


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The company has a detailed describing how the multi-key decryption system works. I hope you and your friends love our new 1Password hosted service as much as we met making it for you. It's disappointing to hear that I will need to pay yet again to have the updated apps. In addition to its password service, a 1Password subscription also gives you 1GB of secure document storage, a 365-day item history for retrieving old passwords, and multi-factor authentication. And the company responders did some nice verbal gymnastics, I think it is pretty obvious that this is just mainly just a money grab on behalf of AgileBits. It 1password subscription also be set up so that files are synchronized through all platformslocalandand more between, through 1Password. I've also had 1Password 6 for at least a year. So if you have two Macs you do not need to purchase two licenses, unless two different people will be using it. The main difference between the individual subscription and a family plan is that the sincere plan does not include password and document sharing, permission controls, or account recovery for someone who gets locked out of their account. The Android app is actually better than 1Password, and KeeWeb 1password subscription better for me because it works on Linux as well and it gives me a full print of all edits not just 1password subscription password field. I'm not just thinking about financial incentives here. Will the old apps die over the next year s and only the cloud-service will be left?.